Panty Trust, My Used Panty Store, and Panty Hog Review
This can be seen as very much a review of Panty Trust, Panty Hog, and My Used Panty Store, based on my experiences with the single entity claiming to be many. Politics in Used Panties Land share a striking similarity to more…worldly happenings and what I believe to be human tendencies. Panty Trust, Panty Hog, and My Used Panty Store and I are of a different mindset. I value liberation, personal freedom, and true honesty, while they seem to weigh strongly toward policing, controlling, and eliminating anything in opposition–making it all look so….nice, welcoming, …’right’ on the surface all the while. Read on…for a fraction of (only) my story in regards to Panty Trust, Panty Hog, and My Used Panty Store.
Newbie Me and Panty Trust
I literally was fresh to the scene, going through the Panty Trust seller review process in 2008, and they were already telling me what I could and could not do, and who I was. Panty Trust said that they had spies at the now defunct My Panty Store (which, at the time, was very stiff competition for the budding My Used Panty Store) who had seen me selling there, and that I had to promise to never go back or I would not be verified because ‘everyone there was a fraud’.
It was not me–someone else owned my domain prior to me getting it–and between being told what to do and who I was (I never actually was asked), indirectly categorized as a fraud (by supposed association) and the cheese-dangling, power-consumed way that they communicated with me in general, I’d had enough! I banned myself because I would not stand for being bullied by Panty Trust.
I know now that checking for domain transfers is an elementary task, yet it interestingly was not a part of what Panty Trust claims to be “the most rigorous verification process.”
Looking back, I am glad that I never paid Panty Trust $50 to sniff my panties and dictate where I could go and who I have permission to associate with. I had no idea then that, in the scheme of things, third party verifications are meaningless, and that sellers can do a better job verifying that they are legitimate themselves! Panty Trust does a VERY good job (with psychological manipulation admittedly applied to a lot of marketing schemes) in making (‘new’) sellers AND buyers THINK that their process, practices (and theologies) are the ‘highest standard in the used panty industry’ and that they are creating a ‘safe’ environment– all the while preying upon (selectively marketing toward) the unsuspecting and (I say this gently, because I was too) the ignorant.
A Threat to My Used Panty Store?
I then registered at My Used Panty Store, not knowing that they are one in the same as Panty Trust, and began posting on the My Used Panty Store forum. I made a little “I provide used panties video verification” banner and put it in my My Used Panty Store forum signature. I noticed a definite urge by the Admin. and moderators for sellers to become Panty Trust Verified. One day there were two sellers on the forum who were seeking sponsorship for their Panty Trust verification, and I messaged them sharing that …all that they needed was a webcam. Well, admin was looking at me closely and banned me for spamming when I was trying to empower others.
Panty Hog: Do I Know You, PK?
THEN, not knowing Panty Hog (Used Panty Portal) was owned by the same people as pantyrust.com and myusedpantystore.com, I tried signing up as a member there. I was fiddling around with my Panty Hog profile and I selected something about reciprocal links, which I knew nothing about at the time (there were none on my barely-there site). After having been on there for only 45 minutes, I get an e-mail from Panty Hog Administrator PK stating that my account had been deleted because there was no reciprocal link on my site….and something about me being a liar… That confused me. So far as I knew at that time I had just met the person.
So, why all of the Banter Now, After Two Years?
I have seen a lot happen on the web in regards to this entity. What initiated this post was not my own experience with them–but witnessing one event in particular: the (self-proclaimed Queen-of-Effing-Everything) Serena laying into a newbie, so viciously, …
…for something she’s so very guilty of doing herself. The poor girl’s IP was even posted publicly. I was notified of this by a Twitter retweet of the Empresses’ words bragging about the bullying and how Chloe is “no more” (she loves to use that phrasing).
That’s lovely, yes?…middle finger-flinging, My Used Panty Store Manager, Panty Hog Columnist, Panty Trust Board Director– basically a minion for the entity which boasts their commitment to TRANSPARENCY (!), SAFETY, INTEGRITY, FAIR BUSINESS PRACTICE, PEER ASSISTANCE, “The Best…” “Most Enjoyable…” bla, bla, bla-a-a-a-a….
The Utopian Empire, in my experience, plays so disturbingly heavily on human emotion to satisfy their need for power…and money. I like Panty Trust’s quotes the best–especially when they are isolated from the rest of their propaganda.
Directed to buyers:
“When you purchase from a seller who is not Panty Trust Verified, there is a 50% chance that you are dealing with a…(dark, glo-o-o-o-o-my music)fraud.”
I’ve since created a Used Panty Selling Advice website–promoting honesty, knowledge, and empowerment in the industry. It is dedicated to Chloe, and anyone else who the Empire has attempted to victimize and bully. It is a service to the entire used panty selling industry without any attempt to manipulate people into a select ‘community’ within it.
Thank you. Thank you for compelling me to further nurture an integral part of myself, and that is to help others.
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2011 update: Panty Trust Posts My Name…
If you feel like the Empire’s attempted to bully you, then you are not alone. I have received numerous e-mails from sellers, buyers, AND Admin. of selling venues with similar stories since I first posted this in July of 2010. Why they won’t publicly come forward I don’t completely understand, but I respect their decision.
Since then, a lot has happened. One highlight would have to be Serena’s illegal use of personal information obtained during my Panty Trust verification process. She posted my name on a hate blog–reserved only for those who seem to be the biggest threat to Panty Trust, My Used Panty Store, and Panty Hog? From what I have been told on a few accounts, I am not the only one on there; this is not the only time that they have tried to use the leverage of delving into someone’s personal life in attempts to make them DOCILE….
Another highlight would be Bill, Panty Trust Manager, then contacting me supposedly in attempt to smooth things over. It was how I actually learned of Serena positing my personal information. I admit that I was livid, but really was ready to link to the blog so that others could see what could potentially be done with their information. I had more of a concern for other sellers than myself. That threw him off a bit! So, Bill, within many e-mail exchanges back and forth, was basically trying to muscle me into deleting things that I had written, this post, in exchange for the consortium deleting things such as the post where Serena posted my personal information. He also explained that in order for Serena to face any consequences, someone (um, who–ha!) would have to bring the issue to the Panty Trust Board in order to address it, and any action taken would have to be voted upon.
….hilarious–well, not really. At some point in the conversation I was invited to join the Panty Trust Board (I know that seems a bit odd, huh?). Actually, it behooves groups to let in outsiders so that they don’t fall victim to the negative repercussions of group think, but…, um, I am not so sure if that was the reason for the invite to join Panty Trust. The conversation ended when did not cave into all of Bill’s requests, which sent him stomping off …”you must be happy with the status quo.” No, I am just not…needing to be told what the (bleep) to do, STILL. Surely Bill would have his own version of this…chapter.
It does make sense, though, that Serena would move for Panty Trust sellers not to be able to link to me before she, ahem, ‘left’ the scene six months later, in June (Yup, sellers who are thinking of becoming Panty Trust verified, they feel obligated (for safety and protection, moral and ethical purposes, of course) to tell you what you can do on your own site.) As I just recently found out, there are buyers who you are also not allowed to service, and other websites that you are not allowed to affiliate with. It would also make sense for Serena to stick around in the background (tweak a site or two (or, gosh, how many sites now?), do a tweet or two…), while efforts are being made for Panty Trust to look more like a 100% volunteer (plural) run organization–for other sellers to take the stage, and for the thought of their actually being leaders (and legal owners) to dissipate. After all, wise (and often effective) rulers…don’t let people know that they are being led.
Most notably, it would behoove them to make me look like an enemy of the sellers by being so outspoken against the entity. …power in numbers. I am just pondering ‘out loud’, now, sorry.
So, now Panty Trust has this new image and site design.
Recent developments:
PK decided to blog a wee bit about how the three sites are not affiliated, most notably Panty Trust and My Used Panty Store because WOW could that be seen as a conflict of interest. But, then, things get thrown out there like this:


Oopsie!
Panty Trust, Panty Hog, and My Used Panty Store Admin., you folks make it all look so pretty, I do have to admit.
In a way I admire the work, time and thought that you’ve put into this, the strategies used–very calculated. For the record, I don’t hate you, nor do I want to oust you from the internet. We are just on totally opposite ends of the thought (and therefore action) spectrum. I find it interesting that much the same social conflicts which began in the Cradle of ‘Civilization’ and have never since ceased…are mirrored in the used panties niche of the adult industry. Gosh, there’s been a lot of bloodshed over the centuries because of it. It’s a shame, …our human condition.
Going through all of this, for wow a long time now, has made me learn more about myself. Again, thank you.
(side note)
This is a phenomenal Youtube series! This British documentary explains historical use of fear (which is still (increasingly) applied today) and other emotions/desires in “managing the irrational force of the masses”–the “engineering of consent”….
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I love this article. I have been selling panties now for just over a year and have had nothing but problems with MUPS, Panty Trust, and Panty Hog….which are all owned and operated by the same people by the way. I think it’s pretty amusing that they tried to tell you about another site being fraudulent period. The fact of the matter is…My Used Panty Store is the biggest Fraud of them all. Want Proof? Go to myusedpantystore.com. Next Click on the “Stores” tab. Go to the last page of stores listed…I believe it’s page 4. Click where it reads “(seller’s) Store is now closed.” On this screen there’s a bar of blue buttons. The far right button reads “view reputation.” Click on that button. Bare with me, we’re almost there. Scroll to the bottom of the screen, and click on page 6. Here there is feedback listed from (sellers) first panty sales. You’ll notice that they’re all left from a zero feedback buyer who is no longer registered. You’ll also notice that the auction ID number is identical on all of them…that’s because these auctions never existed. (seller), (seller), and (seller) all have this feedback for there first few auctions, and all left from the same buyer. When My Used Panty Store first started, they were not successful at all….Hell they’re still not successful. No one actually sells anything on their site. Because of this, these three users, who are also the founders and moderators of the site, made up a bogus buyer just to fluff their feedback to try and make it look like the site was successful. With their reputations based on lies, people actually started buying from them and leaving real feedback. When they felt that the site was getting enough attention, they started charging an annual fee to all users and charging all kinds of fees for the auctions. Now they do everything they can to prevent people from advertising their own outside sites and constantly harass all of the sellers for breaking their ridiculous policies…which they change almost every day by the way. I am now doing the best I can to advertise my site outside of MUPS so that I can just cancel my membership there all together. I have chatted with hundreds of buyers on MUPS and they all hate it. Each of them says the same thing…”I’m here to find sellers and then try and do transactions outside of MUPS.” Looks like that’s why we’re all there. I have faith that soon enough MUPS will discredit themselves and flop, just like they deserve to.
Somehow I knew this type of information would surface. I hope that you don’t mind me making a separate blog post out of this, and if you do then I will remove it.
It’s looking like it evolved into a used panties dystopia.
I don’t mind at all.
Thanks! I see that this did take a little courage, now that I really look at the entire picture.
I tried joining the pantie community through panty trust and panty hog first and they were bullies and so I left. Never went to my used panty store. I sell on craiglst now and my customers are local and get them fresh. How much more verified can that be.
Hi, may I ask how you are able to sell them on Cragslist? Do you post them in the clothing section or the personals section? And how do you get your panties to your customers considering it’s not a safe world out there?
I’ve had troubles with them and certain sellers on those sites. I was bullied, and had very few sales at all, yet everyone was claiming to be selling panties like they were going out of fashion.
So I basically started undercutting everyones prices, and telling everyone that I was doing really well (even though I wasn’t) and they called me a fraud and liar and banned me from all their sites.
Thank you for being one of the few who publicly come forth. I see that the last Dino review from Panty Hog was a positive one, and even predicted the controversy that you mention.
I have had a few e-mails from sellers still affiliated who would love to do so, but…just don’t.
As you probably know my site appears as a spam site on (seller’s) web site.
How it happened. I Recive an e-mail from a \” buyer\”. 3 panties pictures were attached to the message, I tried to answer,I attached 2 pics and tell the buyer to visite my web site but the e-mail was sent to all my Contacts. from my adress book . (seller) adress and the paypal service adress were among my contacts. (seller’s) address was one of my contacts because I asked her how much i will have to pay for some help to my web site (Answer: I charge $ 20 per hour…So between $ 500 and $ 1,500). Ok Thank you, to much for me She first posted my site on Panty Hog forum but after speaking with the admin from Panty hog the post was deleted. After I tried to contact (seller) and ask her to delete the post from her web site . I explained what happened and I said : I\’m not crazy to send a message to paypal and tell them to visit my web site. I sent a dozen messages and left a dozen comments on that post but did not receive a response and no comments have been approved. But eventually she did something…after I told her about the paypal address she uploaded a picture to show what good detective she is.
Now i just I want to know how some admin from this community managed to to change her opinion from very bad to the best site. I tray for almost a month to do that but the my site is still there and my comments for that article are not approved.
It’s nice to see people starting to get the courage to speak out, generally, and thank you for taking the time to do so.
Would you mind explaining that a little more?
Hi there. First off, I’m so happy that you posted this. I just decided yesterday that I wanted to do this too but I was so lost as to HOW TO DO IT. I signed up for MUPS but I’m SOOOOOO happy that I read your blog before I paid their annual fees. Have you found a better solution to selling your panties?
I thought about using Craigslist but I’m concerned about a few things. 1. How do I get it to them being that they might see my face and maybe follow me in my car somehow. 2. How would they pay? PayPal? lmao. 3. Is it safe?
Kudos to you again.
Hi, Strawberry. Don’t laugh that off; the more the merrier to show off!
I have a(nother) domain secured and would be happy to have yours be the very first inquiry answered on my next blog website. In the meantime, please check your inbox.
I have an inkling that whatever it is I am doing might be working out well. If not, then…I am still gaining knowledge!
I too was bullied by “Pantytrust” and I have nothing good to say about them. I have not ever been a member, nor would I apply to be one. When I posted on a private message board about their fear-mongering tactics I was harassed and attacked by representatives from the site. They are unprofessional bullies out to make money from and take advantage of women who are involved in a sex-related business. We have another word for that– PIMP.
Thanks for posting your experience, Sarah. It’s quite the abyss to stare into for so long. What we as dirty panty sellers can do is offer used panty verification of our own, cutting out the middle man, and further emphasizing our personal connection with our patrons by doing so.
Yes, no verification method is 100% guaranteed, but there are better ways to do it than what Pantytrust offers, and they insult the intelligence of both buyers and sellers with their fearmongering tactics and bullying. It’s so not positive behavior and it’s really sad.
Buyers: do you really want your money going to some smelly, dishonest pimpish guy somewhere or do you want to be helping out hot college girls like me and my friends?
Think about it…
One thing to maybe remember is that no one is forcing anyone to do anything, and aspiring or new used panty sellers may not know that there are other alternatives.
Despite what their intent and motives might be, or how they might treat other people, we can offer something to buyers that a third party cannot. With the used panties video verification buyers get to see each pair of panties coming off of the seller’s body, being wrapped, then packaged. That visual, especially with a hand-written note included, is a strong point of reference for buyers when each parcel does arrive. It is…another option, that is free, and a seller can do it …independently.
I am a bona fide panty poet these days.
I see that you are just starting out. If you would like some assistance then please stop by my new selling used panties advice website and feel free to ask questions.
I know he wasn’t forcing anyone to sign up… yet, but they were maligning anyone who didn’t do it by implying most used panty sellers were fake.
That’s what i meant by fear-mongering.
Yeah, thanks for the tip… my friends and I (we are all doing the site together) have seen the how to site from you. We’ve actually been around for about a year on ebanned.com but we haven’t really put much effort into our site until recently.
I see what you mean by fear-mongering, but how do we know if he is really smelly?
I have seen the pack gain up on people, too. Oh, and I have been one of them. It is like a cloud hovering over anything that mentions used panties. The more you speak up or do, the more personalities seem to appear.
If you don`t mind me asking, what do you do to address the topic of legitimacy as a used panty seller?
How is ebanned working out for you? I have not been there for a while. Did you ever try posting your used panties for sale at My Used Panty Store?
My christmas wish for you is for a horrible and painful cancer to run rampent through your body.
Sherry,
I was shocked to stumble upon such a foul sentiment on my friend Amber’s blog. Your Christmas wish come true would wash over me: An ocean of sadness and grief…
My Christmas wish for you is a long, happy and prosperous life; lived in kindness.
Amber -
Was informed about your tweets/page through a very good friend, and you’re very much spot on. I’ve been buying worn panties for almost 5 years now, and those same people are partly responsible for Mypantystore coming to an end. Panty Hog might of been around much longer than Mypantystore, but The Hog,e-banned, and MUPS were never as popular as Mypantystore, and that sturck a chord with quite a few people we both know. Serena is probably the biggest “blowhard” this lifestyle has ever seen. The last thing any new seller or buyer should do, is listen to that train wreck. Panty trust has been a waste of money from day 1, and and I laugh at those who pay others money to verify themselves. Common sense is severely lacking in this lifestyle, and in turn this lifestyle has taken a turn for the worst over the years. Panty trust also doesn’t tell you about the girls who lost their seal because they “ripped off” buyers in the past. So much for the trust eh? lol Lastly, the biggest problem with MUPS and Panty Hog was their lack of proper administration. They would would ban users over silly issues, but yet let a known Pedophile grace their website and accept his money with no repercussions. That should speak volumes about what type of people these are. You’re a better person for seeing through these people and paving your own way in this lifestyle. Good for you!
Thank you for taking the time to type out such a detailed personal response and your input on a little bit of industry history, Ozone. In truth, though…I guess that I could have been seen as lacking common sense there in the beginning, which is how I even ended up almost sending $50, panties, and giving all of my personal information to Panty Trust. While I am shifting gears in terms of my approach to this, I know that no matter what I do they will always be attempting to threaten and discredit me.
I am almost certain that they have not yet revealed how far they will go, but, to be fair, I guess that remains to be seen. I hope that they realize…it will only make them…uglier and less likely to make money.
All I know is, I don’t want lace in your face–or any of the sites I own now or in the future–to feature negative energy. I feel that I owe the industry, and myself, more than spewing such things. I am evolving in a personal sense and as odd as it may seem, this specific situation has helped me work out things out in other areas of my life.
To be honest, this lifestyle needs a “serious” makeover as the negative energy and dishonesty has taken over for some time. It’s a shame when a new seller gets involved in this lifestyle, that she only has a few options to turn to, and imo those places are very stale and don’t have the community feel as I once got the luxury to experience some time ago. Since those days I and many others were fortunate to see the wonderful side of this lifestyle and It saddens me that the fresh new faces will never get to experience that. When I first got into buying worn panties, the ladies in this lifestyle back then were in it for all the right reasons. Sadly today, I don’t feel that way anymore, because I know what it use to be like, and the feeling was awesome! Maybe one day I’ll take the time to get into websites and start my own community, because I honestly believe new people coming into this lifestyle should experience what I and many others back in the day experienced and that is no personal agenda’s and be welcomed with open arms. It’s nice to see people like yourself who take this lifestyle serious and try to make others around you enjoy it as well.
In my humble opinion, it might be hard to duplicate an era past–to expect the same feelings and interactions from something that may no longer exist. I see ‘community’ as being a result of (and defined by) the personal needs, desires, and intentions of the individuals that compose it. Try as someone organizing a new social place may, I am not sure it can be seen as anything other than this…without policing according the the organizers’ needs, desires, and intentions. I feel certain that the industry could use less policing! I feel that it needs freedom, but, those are just my feelings and thoughts.
But, on the flipside, maybe something similar to former spirit of the industry you mention does exist, and I guess there would only be one way to find out!
“Things that accord in tone vibrate together. Things having affinity in their inmost nature seek one another. Clouds follow the dragon. Wind follows the tiger.- Taoist”