My Selling Used Panties Advice Site Launched – usedpantysellingadvice.com
For those who are interested in selling used panties, I’ve launched a new little adventure – usedpantysellingadvice.com Over the years I’ve had more than a few aspiring used panties sellers contact me for answers to various questions regarding how to begin in the online panty fetish industry, so the e-mails can now be turned into posts that more people can see.
There is really only one entity out there right now offering advice and tips in regards to selling dirty panties online. One of the reasons for me beginning this was watching how a prominent member of three affiliated sites, moderator for two of their forums, and assigned consultant for newbies treated…someone who I felt needed help.
I figured that I could try to be a little more helpful, understanding, and courteous than that. Since that I am not a spokesperson for absolutely any entity other than myself, or a manager for an auction site, and I don’t get paid to do it, what I produce might balance out the information currently available. I am not trying to stomp anyone out of the game. I just know, because I do have experience, that there is other information that could be told.
For more history you can read my Panty Trust, My Used Panty Store, and Panty Hog Banned Me – Thank You! post.
The site will not, at any point, be fashioned to funnel people to affiliated, paid third party used panty verification service (Panty Trust) and the associated single venue for multiple used panties sellers to list their items. It’s not going to tell people that one place to sell panties is all that matters…. Yes, laceinyourface.com site will be linked to in the About Me section, and it will lead back to the proud owner of one vagina…who sells her panties, here.
I’ve made the invite for other experienced used panties sellers to join in–independent, active ones, ideally–but really have not been going out of my way to solicit them, yet. I don’t know if I will. I suppose at some point should define “independent.” Basically, this means owning a website–not selling solely from the confines of an auction site. Yes, I will still have an open, active account on ebanned, as _Amber_, but I’ve my hands a little full to be doing any auctions at this time!
All of my investigative content will have to be put on hold, so no need to send more personally-drafted letters with CC’s to ghost members of real firms, Serena…. I am not so sure they’d like that, again. It’s good to know that he situation went from “debilitating” to “somewhat frustrating.”
Panty Trust, My Used Panty Store, and Panty Hog Review
This can be seen as very much a review of Panty Trust, Panty Hog, and My Used Panty Store, based on my experiences with the single entity claiming to be many. Politics in Used Panties Land share a striking similarity to more…worldly happenings and what I believe to be human tendencies. Panty Trust, Panty Hog, and My Used Panty Store and I are of a different mindset. I value liberation, personal freedom, and true honesty, while they seem to weigh strongly toward policing, controlling, and eliminating anything in opposition–making it all look so….nice, welcoming, …’right’ on the surface all the while. Read on…for a fraction of (only) my story in regards to Panty Trust, Panty Hog, and My Used Panty Store.
Newbie Me and Panty Trust
I literally was fresh to the scene, going through the Panty Trust seller review process in 2008, and they were already telling me what I could and could not do, and who I was. Panty Trust said that they had spies at the now defunct My Panty Store (which, at the time, was very stiff competition for the budding My Used Panty Store) who had seen me selling there, and that I had to promise to never go back or I would not be verified because ‘everyone there was a fraud’.
It was not me–someone else owned my domain prior to me getting it–and between being told what to do and who I was (I never actually was asked), indirectly categorized as a fraud (by supposed association) and the cheese-dangling, power-consumed way that they communicated with me in general, I’d had enough! I banned myself because I would not stand for being bullied by Panty Trust.
I know now that checking for domain transfers is an elementary task, yet it interestingly was not a part of what Panty Trust claims to be “the most rigorous verification process.”
Looking back, I am glad that I never paid Panty Trust $50 to sniff my panties and dictate where I could go and who I have permission to associate with. I had no idea then that, in the scheme of things, third party verifications are meaningless, and that sellers can do a better job verifying that they are legitimate themselves! Panty Trust does a VERY good job (with psychological manipulation admittedly applied to a lot of marketing schemes) in making (‘new’) sellers AND buyers THINK that their process, practices (and theologies) are the ‘highest standard in the used panty industry’ and that they are creating a ‘safe’ environment– all the while preying upon (selectively marketing toward) the unsuspecting and (I say this gently, because I was too) the ignorant.
A Threat to My Used Panty Store?
I then registered at My Used Panty Store, not knowing that they are one in the same as Panty Trust, and began posting on the My Used Panty Store forum. I made a little “I provide used panties video verification” banner and put it in my My Used Panty Store forum signature. I noticed a definite urge by the Admin. and moderators for sellers to become Panty Trust Verified. One day there were two sellers on the forum who were seeking sponsorship for their Panty Trust verification, and I messaged them sharing that …all that they needed was a webcam. Well, admin was looking at me closely and banned me for spamming when I was trying to empower others.
Panty Hog: Do I Know You, PK?
THEN, not knowing Panty Hog (Used Panty Portal) was owned by the same people as pantyrust.com and myusedpantystore.com, I tried signing up as a member there. I was fiddling around with my Panty Hog profile and I selected something about reciprocal links, which I knew nothing about at the time (there were none on my barely-there site). After having been on there for only 45 minutes, I get an e-mail from Panty Hog Administrator PK stating that my account had been deleted because there was no reciprocal link on my site….and something about me being a liar… That confused me. So far as I knew at that time I had just met the person.
So, why all of the Banter Now, After Two Years?
I have seen a lot happen on the web in regards to this entity. What initiated this post was not my own experience with them–but witnessing one event in particular: the (self-proclaimed Queen-of-Effing-Everything) Serena laying into a newbie, so viciously, …
…for something she’s so very guilty of doing herself. The poor girl’s IP was even posted publicly. I was notified of this by a Twitter retweet of the Empresses’ words bragging about the bullying and how Chloe is “no more” (she loves to use that phrasing).
That’s lovely, yes?…middle finger-flinging, My Used Panty Store Manager, Panty Hog Columnist, Panty Trust Board Director– basically a minion for the entity which boasts their commitment to TRANSPARENCY (!), SAFETY, INTEGRITY, FAIR BUSINESS PRACTICE, PEER ASSISTANCE, “The Best…” “Most Enjoyable…” bla, bla, bla-a-a-a-a….
The Utopian Empire, in my experience, plays so disturbingly heavily on human emotion to satisfy their need for power…and money. I like Panty Trust’s quotes the best–especially when they are isolated from the rest of their propaganda.
Directed to buyers:
“When you purchase from a seller who is not Panty Trust Verified, there is a 50% chance that you are dealing with a…(dark, glo-o-o-o-o-my music)fraud.”
I’ve since created a Used Panty Selling Advice website–promoting honesty, knowledge, and empowerment in the industry. It is dedicated to Chloe, and anyone else who the Empire has attempted to victimize and bully. It is a service to the entire used panty selling industry without any attempt to manipulate people into a select ‘community’ within it.
Thank you. Thank you for compelling me to further nurture an integral part of myself, and that is to help others.
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2011 update: Panty Trust Posts My Name…
If you feel like the Empire’s attempted to bully you, then you are not alone. I have received numerous e-mails from sellers, buyers, AND Admin. of selling venues with similar stories since I first posted this in July of 2010. Why they won’t publicly come forward I don’t completely understand, but I respect their decision.
Since then, a lot has happened. One highlight would have to be Serena’s illegal use of personal information obtained during my Panty Trust verification process. She posted my name on a hate blog–reserved only for those who seem to be the biggest threat to Panty Trust, My Used Panty Store, and Panty Hog? From what I have been told on a few accounts, I am not the only one on there; this is not the only time that they have tried to use the leverage of delving into someone’s personal life in attempts to make them DOCILE….
Another highlight would be Bill, Panty Trust Manager, then contacting me supposedly in attempt to smooth things over. It was how I actually learned of Serena positing my personal information. I admit that I was livid, but really was ready to link to the blog so that others could see what could potentially be done with their information. I had more of a concern for other sellers than myself. That threw him off a bit! So, Bill, within many e-mail exchanges back and forth, was basically trying to muscle me into deleting things that I had written, this post, in exchange for the consortium deleting things such as the post where Serena posted my personal information. He also explained that in order for Serena to face any consequences, someone (um, who–ha!) would have to bring the issue to the Panty Trust Board in order to address it, and any action taken would have to be voted upon. 
….hilarious–well, not really. At some point in the conversation I was invited to join the Panty Trust Board (I know that seems a bit odd, huh?). Actually, it behooves groups to let in outsiders so that they don’t fall victim to the negative repercussions of group think, but…, um, I am not so sure if that was the reason for the invite to join Panty Trust. The conversation ended when did not cave into all of Bill’s requests, which sent him stomping off …”you must be happy with the status quo.” No, I am just not…needing to be told what the (bleep) to do, STILL. Surely Bill would have his own version of this…chapter.
It does make sense, though, that Serena would move for Panty Trust sellers not to be able to link to me before she, ahem, ‘left’ the scene six months later, in June (Yup, sellers who are thinking of becoming Panty Trust verified, they feel obligated (for safety and protection, moral and ethical purposes, of course) to tell you what you can do on your own site.) As I just recently found out, there are buyers who you are also not allowed to service, and other websites that you are not allowed to affiliate with. It would also make sense for Serena to stick around in the background (tweak a site or two (or, gosh, how many sites now?), do a tweet or two…), while efforts are being made for Panty Trust to look more like a 100% volunteer (plural) run organization–for other sellers to take the stage, and for the thought of their actually being leaders (and legal owners) to dissipate. After all, wise (and often effective) rulers…don’t let people know that they are being led. 
Most notably, it would behoove them to make me look like an enemy of the sellers by being so outspoken against the entity. …power in numbers. I am just pondering ‘out loud’, now, sorry. So, now Panty Trust has this new image and site design.
Recent developments:
PK decided to blog a wee bit about how the three sites are not affiliated, most notably Panty Trust and My Used Panty Store because WOW could that be seen as a conflict of interest. But, then, things get thrown out there like this:
Oopsie!
Panty Trust, Panty Hog, and My Used Panty Store Admin., you folks make it all look so pretty, I do have to admit. In a way I admire the work, time and thought that you’ve put into this, the strategies used–very calculated. For the record, I don’t hate you, nor do I want to oust you from the internet. We are just on totally opposite ends of the thought (and therefore action) spectrum. I find it interesting that much the same social conflicts which began in the Cradle of ‘Civilization’ and have never since ceased…are mirrored in the used panties niche of the adult industry. Gosh, there’s been a lot of bloodshed over the centuries because of it. It’s a shame, …our human condition.
Going through all of this, for wow a long time now, has made me learn more about myself. Again, thank you.
(side note)
This is a phenomenal Youtube series! This British documentary explains historical use of fear (which is still (increasingly) applied today) and other emotions/desires in “managing the irrational force of the masses”–the “engineering of consent”….
